Comments on: Cognitive Liberty And Self-Ownership http://www.theemotionmachine.com/cognitive-liberty-and-self-ownership Psychology and Self Improvement Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:47:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tracee Hegre http://www.theemotionmachine.com/cognitive-liberty-and-self-ownership/comment-page-1#comment-1178 Tracee Hegre Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:12:00 +0000 http://www.theemotionmachine.com/?p=3258#comment-1178 Thank you for writing this, it means a lot to me. I have struggled with <a href="http://qvof.com/2009/12/18/ferguson-speaks-from-the-heart">an addiction</a> for most of my life, so what you wrote here was very meaningful to me. <a href="http://www.qvof.com">Visit my blog if you'd like to read more</a>. Thanks again for this blog - it is really informative. Thank you for writing this, it means a lot to me. I have struggled with an addiction for most of my life, so what you wrote here was very meaningful to me. Visit my blog if you'd like to read more. Thanks again for this blog – it is really informative.

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]]> By: Greg http://www.theemotionmachine.com/cognitive-liberty-and-self-ownership/comment-page-1#comment-505 Greg Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:00:23 +0000 http://www.theemotionmachine.com/?p=3258#comment-505 Oh so true - I think you nailed it! The government should have no say in this sort of private decision making. Oh so true – I think you nailed it! The government should have no say in this sort of private decision making.

]]> By: Steven Handel http://www.theemotionmachine.com/cognitive-liberty-and-self-ownership/comment-page-1#comment-503 Steven Handel Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:16:20 +0000 http://www.theemotionmachine.com/?p=3258#comment-503 <blockquote>“Reason is impaired by long-term drug abuse. You can not “reason” with such an addict. The collateral damage of drug addiction is the addict’s responsibility and yet they are not responsible persons."</blockquote> I would argue that you can. A long-term drug addict still has interests, desires and values in life. It may not be “rationality” in the common sense understanding of the term, but there is a kind of intellect or mode of thought that you <strong>can</strong> appeal to. God knows that if there is drug abuse then there is suffering, and people do not wish to live their lives in suffering. Therefore, <em>somewhere</em> there is a will to change, and we have the ability to help someone discover that. Also, with your mindset, how would you justify the existence of rehabilitation centers? <em> "At what point is coercion appropriate? Drug use should not be a crime – however, the handling of persons causing collateral damage is a wrinkle in the libertarian philosophy."</em> Can you give an example of what you specifically mean by collateral damage? If a person is high on drugs and acts irresponsibly - say they drive a car and get into an accident - then they have infringed on someone else's rights. They are now a criminal, not because they consumed a drug but because they drove while on the drug; that is where the action becomes a crime. And for the record the War On Drugs has done absolutely nothing to actually help drug addicts. I say we try something different and change our approach.

“Reason is impaired by long-term drug abuse. You can not “reason” with such an addict. The collateral damage of drug addiction is the addict’s responsibility and yet they are not responsible persons.”

I would argue that you can. A long-term drug addict still has interests, desires and values in life. It may not be “rationality” in the common sense understanding of the term, but there is a kind of intellect or mode of thought that you can appeal to. God knows that if there is drug abuse then there is suffering, and people do not wish to live their lives in suffering. Therefore, somewhere there is a will to change, and we have the ability to help someone discover that. Also, with your mindset, how would you justify the existence of rehabilitation centers?


“At what point is coercion appropriate? Drug use should not be a crime – however, the handling of persons causing collateral damage is a wrinkle in the libertarian philosophy.”

Can you give an example of what you specifically mean by collateral damage? If a person is high on drugs and acts irresponsibly – say they drive a car and get into an accident – then they have infringed on someone else’s rights. They are now a criminal, not because they consumed a drug but because they drove while on the drug; that is where the action becomes a crime.

And for the record the War On Drugs has done absolutely nothing to actually help drug addicts. I say we try something different and change our approach.

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